Ep. 2: The Good, The Bad, and the… Huh?
EPISODE DESCRIPTION
In today's episode, Matti breaks down the TV moments that work, the ones that don’t, and the ones that leave us genuinely confused. Then we shift to a bigger conversation about leadership and accountability, focusing on Anthropic’s CEO and the recent shift in the company’s AI safety stance.
It's gonna be fine. Probably.
Referenced in this episode:
Anthropic's Responsible Scaling Policy (Anthropic.com) - https://www.anthropic.com/news/responsible-scaling-policy-v3
TRANSCRIPT
Hello and welcome to It's Gonna Be Fine. I'm Matti. So glad you're with us. I am recording this on a Sunday, so not sure when you're listening to it, but if it is the weekend, I hope you've had a nice weekend. so far mine has been pretty good. started off with a haircut. That's always fun and exciting, looking sharp. I usually get it about every month or so. And because boyfriend here is not getting any younger.
It always includes some gray cover up. And you know, it took a while for me and my stylist to find the right color. For a while there it was way too dark. And then it got a little bit lighter. And I think we finally have found that sweet spot of color. So every time I get a haircut, I feel a little bit more cool than I actually am.
and that usually lasts a few days and then we're back to normal. So also had a chance to hit up some good restaurants this weekend, saw some friends, caught up, so we're riding pretty high right now. We're thriving, if you will.
And speaking of the weekend, these days, because I'm so cool, I tend to spend them in my house because I recently purchased this condo, so I want to spend all the time in it because I spent all money on it. And that means a lot of alone time with not much to do. So what do I do? I tend to watch a lot of television. There's no shortage of content out there. And there's some really interesting things going on in the TV world right now.
across all types of genres, which got me thinking, we really have like the good, the bad, and not even the ugly, but it's really like the good, the bad, and the the what? What what was that? What did I just see? And just to give you a little bit of background on what I like and what I tend to watch, I am a huge fan of mysteries, thrillers, anything that's going to keep me on the edge of my seat. And
I wanna I want that show that like by the end of that episode, you're like, no, I I can't stop. I must keep watching, even if it means you watch eight episodes in a row. So I s was on Amazon Prime, you know, just scrolling. And Amazon Prime, as you know, has a lot of those subscriptions, those add-ons you can do, whether it's Showtime or or others. And apparently there's a streaming service called MGM Plus. Not sure if you're aware of it. I was not.
and there's a show on there called Vanished. And it is about a woman whose boyfriend disappears, like in plain sight, and about her trying to figure out what happened. So that premise alone, I'm like, I'm in. That sounds great. I'm gonna pay for this. $7.99 a month, no problem. It stars Kaylee Cuoko, who for the longest time was a sitcom star. So she has ventured into
More of this thriller drama/slash comedy world. If you remember, she did that show, The Flight Attendant on HBO, I think it was, where I think it was two seasons. That was that was actually a really good show. I thought I really liked it. So I was like, okay, let's let's keep going on this journey. We'll follow Kaylee to her next show, Vanish on MGM Plus. What was also interesting about MGM Plus is that I was, you know, subscribed and I was looking at it, and it's like, this is their only.
at least from what I can tell, they're only like original content series. So it's almost like they're trying to get into this content. So trying to start to build their own series and create their own shows and and all of that. Because if you scroll through, it's like old movie, old movie, old movie, old movie, old movie vanished, starring Kaylee Cuco. Old movie, old movie, old movie. So seems like they're maybe trying to try something new and maybe compete with some of the other streamers and see how, see how it goes.
And it's really interesting because I so of course I really wanted to like this show. I I it's exactly the type of show I like. And I was like, Great, Kaylee Quogo, let's keep going. Let's build on the flight attendant. Let's do another great one. And from a story perspective, in the beginning, at least the first couple episodes, it was pretty good. Right. So there, you know, you learn what happened and you sort of see what she's trying to accomplish. And it had that, you know, by end of episode one, I was like, Yep, I keep want I want to keep watching.
let's watch episode two. Outside of the story, there were some interesting quirks that I thought were a little odd. This show feels very much like early to mid 2000s in terms of its music and energy and vibe. I don't know if anyone watched this. I'm totally dating myself, but when I was younger, much younger, I loved this show on CBS called Without a Trace, another one just right up my alley. It's it was a procedural, but it was about,
This the FBI finding missing people. So, you know, very much a mystery to solve. And this show reminds me of that in that it was it the same music, that like really intense sort of crime music. A lot of it was kind of like grainy. So like the quality, and I don't know if they did this on purpose, but the quality of the show and the visuals felt a little old. So I just I was like, Am in the mid-2000s right now, watching
a CBS procedural. But if I if you can get over that, which I did for a while, you know, from a story perspective, the first couple of episodes were pretty good. Episode it's four episodes total, which is kind of short also. And it's again thinking like, okay, MGM's really just sort of seeing if they can do this and not putting too much money into it. So just four episodes. And it just took this weird turn by episode three, where
They just ran out of realistic storylines, I guess you can say. And some of the things happening were just, you're like, what? That would how did that happen? And who's that? And and they survived that. It it was just very, very odd. And the other thing about this show is there is so much running. Like so much running to the point where you're like, did they create the scenes?
And write the scenes to supplement the running, or vice versa? Because you would think that, you know, running or chasing should complement the story. But in this case, there's so much running. I was like, it it did they just want as much running as possible? And then they built a show around the running. And for a while there, if you can't if you combine the running and the music, I don't know if anyone remembers Run Lolo Run, but I was watching this and like, why am I watching Run Lolo Run on streaming? And then get this, the last
Episode, the title of the episode is called Run Alice Run. So I was definitely onto something there. but there was so there was just so much going on in this show. It just like I had to keep watching. Obviously, I had to finish it because I felt like also it would be great material for here, but it was a head scratcher, a real head scratcher. Some other things that I noticed that also were just odd and it just it felt like a college level production.
not to knock anybody, but it just didn't seem like they were very advanced or experienced in what they were doing from a production perspective, like I mentioned, the music and the graininess, but then also the story itself. And one thing that jumps out to me in particular, is there in the first episode, she meets a woman and they're talking and in the middle of their chat, the woman pulls out an insulin pen and injects herself with insulin and is like,
You know, I have diabetes, so I have taken insulin. So Kayle Kugel's character like, okay. And so I'm sitting there like, I wonder if diabetes is gonna take a play a part in this show. And as a type one diabetic myself, I'm, you know, of course, that piques my interest. And I'm like, ooh, this is gonna be good. I wonder, you know, was something gonna happen and and and the diabetes is gonna play a play a role or prevent something from happening or cause some complication. What's gonna get what's gonna happen? I'm excited. And then there's another episode where.
Again, she like references it, but by the end of the series, it made no difference. There was absolutely no reason for us to know that she had diabetes. Nothing happened. It wasn't like if you remember the movie Panic Room, where Jody Foster's daughter has type one diabetes and needs like a sugar boost and she needs to get the intruder to give it to her. It's it's actually great. If you haven't seen it, I would watch it. But this was like, why did you tell us that? And then it got kind of sappy at the end.
Like in a again, in an unrealistic way. So just unfortunate. So not exactly sure what MGM Plus is trying to do. I wish them well. I think they need to up their quality a bit. Kudos to Kaylee Cuoko for trying again, but I don't think this one landed as well as the flight attendant. And I'm really curious as to why she chose to do this show. I mean, she's a top-notch actress, big name, can probably command a lot of money.
And this just felt like something that a C level person would do in terms of the quality. And you know, maybe there's something here of, you know, she's maybe she's trying to really continue to change genres and not be typecast potentially as a comedic part actress. She, of course, was on a number of sitcoms. So I get that. I get I get trying to do that. And you know, hopefully there's other opportunities for her.
And hopefully some better ones, in my opinion. Okay, so that I would constitute as the bad. let's switch over to the good though. And there are some good things going on that I've that I think on television. And the first one that comes to mind is the one on Hulu and FX called Love Story, JFK John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bissett. Now, this is another type of genre I love. So in addition to mysteries, thrillers.
Thanks keeping you on the edge of your seat. I love a scripted show based on a true story or based on real people. it gets me super interested in the the the topic and I tend to then do a lot of research and get really invested. especially if it's about people that I remember or a time or a or something that happened that I remember, which in this case I do. We're doing a lot of dating myself on this episode. That's fine. But I I mean, I remember where I was when
JFK, when I heard about his plane crash, his deadly plane crash, I was actually in synagogue and somebody came over to my uncle, I think, and told him what happened, mentioned it. And then, you know, we watched on the news everything that was going on. I also remember there were two big news stories that day. There was the JFK Jr. one, and then the Yankees pitcher threw a no hitter. I can't remember his name. I think it was David Cohn.
Or something cone through a no-hitter. Look it up. Check if I'm right. But, you know, so I remember it vividly, and I remember being really drawn to the story and how sad it was, especially with his wife and his wife's sister, who were part of that plane crash. I've also always been kind of really interested in the Kennedys and their family and legacy. You know, I I remember when I have some family in Boston and there was one trip I was there, and I really wanted to go to the Kennedy Museum, and I ended up driving myself there. I was like kind of young, like old enough to drive, but pretty young. And I went and did the museum by myself. So always had some affinity towards it. And so this this show is right up my alley. So really hoping for it to to be good. And then on top of that, it's it's a Ryan Murphy show. And
A lot of his stuff is such quality, especially when he does these things based on based on real things that have happened. He has a whole series of American crime story. If you've seen the OJ Simpson one from 2016 or 17. And then he did one about the murderer, Andrew Coonan. He also did the Monica Lewinsky one. All of these were like I I just loved them all. And so really excited about this one. And just know that if it's Ryan Murphy, it's gonna be fun to watch. And
The thing about this show that I didn't expect to happen for me was this the 90s play such a strong role in the show. So, you know, if we think about other shows like this that Ryan Murphy has done, like the OJ one, it wasn't really about the time period so much because it was more about him and his and the crime and the court case. So we were really pulled in there.
But this one is really following their lives as a couple, and you know, before they met, after they met, and they were living in New York in the 1990s, which from everything I've heard was just a dreamland. It was fun and stylish, and you know, it just people were happy and and it was just the time of some people's lives. And there's things on social media now too where people are kind of throwing back to them in the nineties, like, mom, what were you like in the nineties? And they're
Showing their fashion and what they were doing. And I didn't expect to feel such nostalgia for that time period. And specifically, and I've seen this in social media reels, people are talking about it as well. And I I totally agree. It was just there's something about it being a simpler time in the sense that there's no social media. You cannot know where your friends are and what they're doing 24/7. If you want to talk to someone, you have to actually talk to them. You can't hide behind an app or a text message. If you wanted to go out, you had to and and talk to people and meet people, you had to go out to bars and be social. And there's just this level of simplicity that for me really resonated. I think it says a lot about then, it says a lot about things that are happening now with with social media and just the way the pace of life and what we have access to. And don't get me wrong, there's good with that as well. It's kind of like a necessary evil, but
Seeing seeing how they were back then, and I was alive in the nineties. I was a kid, so I, you know, was not going to bars and having a adult social life. But there's something just so sweet about it. and I think that's landing with people as well. It just feels comforting before all of the before the digital age, essentially, let's put it that way. and you know, around that time we think about what was going on in popular culture. So, you know, Friends, the show came out in the mid-90s, right around when this was happening. And that's just about six people living in New York City, getting through life. And that's, I think, what the vibe was there. So super cool and really fun way to get transported back. Not to mention just all the all the history there. And you know, Naomi Watts plays Jackie Kennedy. She kills it. Gracie Gummer, I think her name is Grace Gummer plays
Caroline Kennedy, and she's actually Meryl Streep's daughter, which I didn't realize. I knew she looked familiar. And then I was doing some research and I was like, yeah. I've seen her like at awards show with Meryl Streep. That's her daughter. and she does a great job. The other interesting thing is the guy who plays JFK, he's a brand new act. Well, not a brand new actor. He's been acting for a while, but this is really his first major role. And he sounds like he was a struggling actor for a while and never really landed much. And
I mean, he looks just like JFK, so it's I think it's pretty clear why they cast him. They're talking about how great he is in the role, and yes, he's good, and he looks like JFK and he does a pretty decent job, but I mean, tell me what you think, but I don't know. The acting's not quite there for me. It's a little monotonous, it's a little flat, but I think they it's clear they went for the look and they definitely nailed that. I mean, he looks just like JFK Jr. There's some other acting there that, you know, wasn't
The best. I mean, there's someone who plays Daryl Hannah, who JFK Jr. dated on and off. And I've seen videos of Daryl Hannah, like on talk shows. And so I can see what this actress is doing in the way she plays her. But again, it just comes off a bit cartoonish, a bit over the top. So at times I'm watching this and I'm like, what is this? Is like a top-tier show on Hulu and FX. Like, where what's going on with the acting? but overall, I think it was really, really strong, with a few little maybe hiccups here and there. But the biggest takeaway for me has been, you know, are we craving that kind of world again? Or do we want just like a break, right? From constantly scrolling and and looking at what our friends are doing and comparing ourselves and listening to a voicemail on a on a on a voicemail recorder or picking up a phone that has a cord, just going out and being in the world.
It's so hard to do that now. It's just because it's so not the norm. So really interesting. I think there's 10 episodes or so. So they're like halfway through. if you're not watching it, highly recommend. And then sticking with the good, there's also some other shows, specifically on Netflix, that I've been watching. And these are back in like that genre that I love, that thriller mystery, you know, edge of your seat, what's gonna happen type show. And it's so interesting, contrasting Netflix with MGM Plus, because Netflix really has found how to do this. And it's not it, they take a different approach than MGM Plus did. You know, when thrillers work like they often do on Netflix, they don't need to manufacture tension like like the vanished show did. They really trust the writing and the story. And when you focus on that, I think that's when we get great quality. Netflix, when they commit to this genre, they do it so well… the shows move. They have mostly good pacing, I would say. You know, sometimes a little bit slow here and there, depending on the style of the show. But overall, you know, you're into it, or least I've been into it. The stakes feel real. There's strong performances. So any chaos that's happening, it's kind of being anchored by the performances. A few that come to mind specifically, and that's the other nice thing, is they don't have to be like new ones. Netflix has a lot of things that have come out.
Two, five, ten years ago that if you haven't seen, you can watch them today and they can be just as enjoyable. One of them, one of my favorite ones, is one called Clickbait. It's with one of the guys from Entourage, Adrian something, Grenier, forget his last name, but that was one I watched all eight episodes in a row. I sat with my friends, we decided to watch the show. We started at like five PM and we finished at like after midnight because we could not stop watching. It was so good. Speaking of again, time periods that's about online dating and online dating crimes and scams. And there's really great characters, really great tense moments, and definitely keeps you on the edge of your seat. And what I love about some of these shows too is you just don't know what's going to happen. And you're trying to like think about, maybe it's that person. And then they show something. You're like, why did they show that? I wonder if that has something to do with it. So opposite to Vanish who showed certain things like the type one diabetes or the diabetes thing and then just did nothing with it.
I feel like these shows on Netflix really do a good job of hitting those small points and then having them play a part. Another one that I recently saw, this is from like two or three years ago. It's called Love and Death. And this was like the dream for me because it's a mystery, it's a crime mystery, and it's based on a true story. So I'm like salivating at something like this. And also just I would say the first episode, maybe I wasn't sure if I wanted to continue with it. You know, some things didn't make so much sense to me in terms of the story as as to why they were making certain decisions. But after episode one, it got really good. It's got really good acting. It has Elizabeth Olsen, so Mary Kate Nashley Olsen's sister, younger sister, who does a great job in it. And it's about this murder that happens. I'm not gonna give too much away, but this murder that happens in the early 1980s. so again, it's like a time period piece brings you back to that time simpler time. And there's just something about that that just makes me feel good. And then, of course, you know, this show didn't really make me feel so good because it's a gruesome murder that happens, but it did such a nice job of showing you different perspectives. And then of course I was reading a little bit about the true story and really interesting, really interesting stuff. So that's Love and Death on Netflix. There's another one recently that my brother recommended called His and Hers, also about crime that takes place and trying to figure out what happened. There was a really great twist at the end that made it worth watching. Cause I would say the first four episodes, I'm kind of like not really loving, I just didn't care as much. Like I the the characters didn't make you feel like you cared as much about them. It was kind of hard to, I think, want to even know what happened or again, like I said, care. But episode five and six really get good and some
Some things come to light and you start to understand what's happening. And then episode six, what a twist. and I really loved the way that they did it. So his and hers is another good one. And then just a a final one that I am currently in the middle of. I'm on season three and there's only three seasons. this is one of the older ones that's on Netflix, but still does really well. It's called Broad Church. And this one, it takes place in England, which for me is nice because you know it introduces you to a different world.
It's not just in the US. And there's cultural things and little quirks that are real are fun and and interesting. And it's about, again, a terrible crime and a sort of whodunit sort of thing and twists and turns. And you just at least I did not see it coming. Season one was really great. Season two, a little forced. It's like they were trying to find other stories.
It's still, I think, really, really good and strong. And then season three is what I'm on now. And there again, there's a new crime, but they still weave in the same characters from the first few seasons. And I again I'm feeling like they're trying to like force keeping them involved because they've moved on from those other crimes. So gonna see how that goes. But overall, still excited to finish that one out. so that's broad church on Netflix. So those are some of the good things that are going on in TV, which then leads us to the Huh? What? And I think you could say vanished is a little bit in that vein, but for me it's more the bad. But for the huh, I'm actually going to take you out of scripted TV and into news. And really wondering when did when did the quality of news go down? So this is about the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping and disappearance. So that's ongoing. They have not, they seem to have very little clues and leads about where she might have been taken or what happened to her. This is Savannah Guthrie's mom. Savannah Guthrie's the co-host of The Today Show, very popular news anchor. I'm sure a lot of you have seen what's going on in the news about this one. So kind of staying close to the story, watching all the the things I see and following it a bit. And CBS News did a story, a piece on it. They're doing, you know, like any of the other shows and and news shows. And they have a reporter there who's, you know, camped out there and reporting back and following the case, and he was interviewing someone. I can't remember who it was, if it was like a law enforcement officer or a neighbor. It might have been a neighbor, but he's doing the report and, you know, typical news story. And then, you know how sometimes they like show the reporter actually talking to the person they're interviewing and they include that as part of the segment. They did that here, and instead of him, you know being in a studio talking to the person, or I don't know, outside, in a room. The dude is sitting in his car talking to this the person he's interviewing and asking him questions from his driver's seat. And he films himself doing this and shows it as part of the story. And I'm like, wait, why why does this feel so DIY? This is like CBS News, one of the top news organizations in the country run by one of the most powerful companies, media companies in the country. Why are we and and and one of the top news stories right now that everyone's following? And he's sitting in his car delivering this report and show deliberately showed us him asking questions from his car, just just sitting there. And I'm like, is this budget related? Is it is he trying to be relatable? Is this just like, you know, habits from the pandemic?
That are staying here when people were trying to socially distance and doing things maybe from their car, or it became more than norm because you can everyone was on video, so you can do it from anywhere. And it just made me think like, what is what is going on in terms of the quality? And I was just so confused by it. Like, why would you decide to do it? And the thing I keep thinking of is like, yeah, relatability, maybe practicality too, right? He's out remotely reporting, but I've got to believe he has a hotel room where he's staying or another area that they could have done it. So who knows? Maybe standards are shifting, or this is a one-off, but this really became for me. So that's why it's not really the good, the bad, and the ugly. It was just like the good, the bad, and the I have no idea what's going on. And so speaking of some of the good, and now a lot of the good was related to more simpler times.
let's pivot to today where things don't feel simple. Th things feel very complex, things feel like they're moving a mile a minute. And what I'm talking about, that's right, more AI. So last week we talked about some uncertainty as it relates to AI and the differences between generative AI and agentic AI and the different benefits and risks that those bring.
And more has happened over the last week or so in the AI world that brings me to a new segment that we're calling Actions Speak Louder Than Words.
And who is our inaugural selection? Well, he's the CEO who toured the media sounding the alarm on AI safety, and then did something kinda different. And yes, I'm talking about anthropic CEO, Dario Amodei. So Mr. Amodei has been, like I said, going around talking about how important thesafety of AI is and how it needs to be the number one priority. And he didn't just go out and mention this a little bit here and there. He did a whirlwind tour of media, his own writing. So I'm just gonna take you through some of those appearances and then let's look at what his actions actually actually show. So for those who don't know, Anthropic, it's one of the biggest AI companies, one of the leaders in the space. Their model is called Claude. You've probably seen tons of ads for Claude. I think they had a bunch in the Super Bowl. It's becoming more and more popular. I'm seeing more and more posts about people switching from Chat GPT to Claude. What this C and this CEO actually came from OpenAI, which is the company that developed ChatGPT. And so he used to work there, and then he started his own company.
And his thing has always been, or at least lately has been AI safety. And he has been talking about if we're not careful, there could be a lot of repercussions when it comes to AI. So a couple of appearances he's made recently. the one that the first one that I saw was his appearance on 60 Minutes. So 60 Minutes, massive news show, weekly, prime time, has millions of viewers, right? So again, he's not just talking to few people. He's really getting his message out there. He sat down with Anderson Cooper and they talked a lot about AI and safety. He framed AI as potentially dangerous, destabilizing, existential. And he even was there with his sister, who also works for his company, and they were talking about, you know, all the warnings and the things that that needed to be done, or at least thought about and kept top of mind when it comes to AI safety. He also appeared on the People by WTF podcast. He compared AI to a tsunami, mentioning he's uncomfortable with concentration of power when it comes to AI, and says that even though safety hurts them commercially, it's still very important. So right, it's not maybe the the best for the your bottom line to focus on safety. Safety costs money. Safety makes you have to make more important decisions instead of just focusing on the bottom line. You know, he in this podcast positioned himself as the, you know, the reluctant truth teller, the guy who is willing to take a financial hit to warn us. and he talks about how AI risks hurt commercially, but are necessary. He also wrote a op-ed in the New York Times. Not a small publication. He wrote it himself. It was like a moral positioning piece. He called for transparency and regulation. This is his ideology, at least it would what what it would seem to be, right? If you're gonna pen your own op-ed in the New York Times. And then he was at the Axios AI Summit, and he mentioned how there's a 25% chance that things go really, really badly with AI. If you think about it, 25% chance that's all high, especially some of the things that they're talking about could, you know, potentially go wrong. So I'm not going to say it's catastrophic talk, but it's getting there. And then he wrote an essay, I believe on his own website. and the essay was called The Adolescence of Technology. And he talked about the moral urgency, standing up for safety, even at economic cost of some of the other themes that we've seen in some of these other pieces. And he really frames this as almost like a moral crusade. Okay.
So those are the words. Let's talk a little bit about the action. So on February 25th, things took a little bit of a turn. The policy softened. It was widely reported in headlines such as this: anthropic abandons industry leading safety pledge. So right there, it's like, what what what? Hold on a second.
And so, you know, I was following some of the coverage and reading some of the information. And it's really interesting how they have taken a bit of a turn and not aligned with the words coming out of their CEO's mouth. So their old stance has been, if our model is dangerous, we pause, right? And we focus on safety. And their new stance is we pause unless some competitors release something similar faster than us.
And now to be fair, I will give them transparency. They are absolutely being transparent and open. They're sharing what they think is important, what they're focusing on. And even when they change course, right, they didn't have to announce this, or at least not announce it as publicly as they did. So they they they do they are being transparent and they're sharing the decisions that they're making. So I will give them that. And you know, competitive pressure is real, right? If one company slows down and others don't, it can that company that's slowing down can lose influence. But if you are saying that safety is so important and you're gonna go on this media tour of big outlets and sound the alarm about how you're the different company, we expect your actions to follow that. And they did not. So February 25th, the policy softens. They've released a new version of their responsible scaling policy, also known as RSP. So there's a new version, version three, that came out February 24th. It's 19 pages, and it, you know, goes into a lot of detail. But the part that I want to call is in the beginning, in the introduction, this is how they position it. This approach represents a change from our previous RSP driven by a collective action problem. The overall level of catastrophic risk from AI depends on the actions of multiple AI developers, not just one.
Our previous RSP committed to implementing mitigations that would reduce our model's absolute risk levels to acceptable levels without regard to whether other frontier AI developers would do the same. But from a societal perspective, what matters is the risk to the ecosystem as a whole. And here's the part that's super important. If one AI developer paused development to implement safety measures while others, so that being anthropic, while others moved forward training and deploying AI systems without strong mitigations, that could result in a world that is less safe. Correct. The developers with the weakest protections would set the pace, and responsible developers would lose their ability to do safety research and advance the public benefit. Although the situation has not yet arisen, it looks likely enough that we want to prepare for it. We now separate our plans as a company, those which we expect to achieve regardless of what any other company does.
From our more ambitious industry-wide recommendations, we aspire to advance the latter through a mix of example setting, addressing unsolved technical problems, advocacy through industry groups, and policy advocacy. But we cannot commit to following them unilaterally. So, Mr. Amodei, you are absolutely today's actions speak louder than words recipient, because what you're saying is it's dangerous for other companies to accelerate without focus on safety. But if they do that, you're gonna ease up on your safety so you can keep up with the competition. It just it makes you wonder who's actually setting the safety bar, right? Like publicly describe like and and it's one thing that we talked about, we talked about the transparency thing, which is important. It's stating it is the first step. But if stating it and then not doing anything about it is what's happening, that's not very helpful, right? Like it's like publicly describing a fire is not the same thing as installing sprinklers. So this approach got me thinking, and it just or doesn't this mean we're only as safe as the least safe company? So this got me a little irked. And I hope there are some improvements to this policy. I'm worried about competition and the bottom line influencing everything.
And that safety continues to not be focused on. Like we talked about last week. There's really not much regulation and we really need that in the US. And I just don't think this is a step in the right direction. So congratulations, Mr. Amodei, on being this week's recipient of Action Speak Louder Than Words.
Alright, well that about wraps it up for today. But of course I'm gonna leave you with something that hopefully makes you feel that it's gonna be fine. The Olympics are over. They ended about a week ago at the time of this recording. And since then, some things have come out. You may be aware that Lindsay Vaughn, the legendary skier, took a took a tumble at the Olympics. She crashed and it left her with complex tibia fractures and ended up getting a rare complication that required emergency surgery. And she has put out some videos recently or a video that it got really scary for a bit. She thought she was actually going to lose her leg and it was going to need to be amputated due to the complications. And thankfully there was a doctor who was operating on her who was able to do something and do some sort of procedure to save her leg. And that is just such wonderful news to hear that she is not gonna lose her leg and she's recovering. She talked about how it's been a hellish process, of course, but some great news there for Lindsay Vaughn coming out of the Olympics and great medical work by probably a very advanced medical team. So that's wonderful to hear.
So, some questions to think about as we wrap up. Will television survive? Will AI behave? Will CEOs put their money where their mouth is? I don't know. But here's what I do know. No matter what happens, it's gonna be fine. I'm Matti, see you next time.
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